Thank you Aihunu J for your suggestion. I would rather seek the Holy Spirit for clarification & explaination than those whom you've referred to. With the greatest for our clergy, I remain convinced that some of those with the titles you mentioned are also searching for the truth. What is happening in the churches is evidence of that. That is, to name a few, churches are becoming empty, politics is rife in the churches. Not to mention allegations of corruption occurs every now and then. Lastly, what is the basis of your conclusion to say that we do not know what we are talking about?